He's confused and overwhelmed. Recently Mark Rathbun, a former member, started a squirrel group which he refers to as Independents or Independent Scientologists. So is this dude back being a Scientologist or what?? That certainly makes the most sense of the evidence. Marty at his most sane does bring up some things.... At his most insane, he is a little hard to take. I imagine he saw the movie and it made him emotional. In the Prince/Aznaran-Miscavige power struggle after the death of LRH and the sidelining of Pat Broeker, Marty was firmly in Miscavige's camp as his attack dog in chief. He actually believes the crap and thinks he should be in charge. Apparently, judging by the responses on this thread, lots of people missed that. Will be interesting how much further he entrenches himself by way of the mechanics of betrayal, especially at the OT level of things. Nanci Rathbun is a lifelong reader of mysteries – historical, contemporary, futuristic, paranormal, hard-boiled, cozy … you can find them all on her bookshelves. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Marty believes that Scientology works, it is Miscavige that is the problem... not what Hubbard taught. He is an interesting character. The classic cuts comes from Allen Brothers in Chicago, the city where Rathbun dined at five steakhouses in 24 hours all in the name of meaty research. he's still, if not a believer, at least still thinks there's a lot of power within the techniques the "church" teaches. Considering how prominent he is in the work done to expose Scientology, I’m surprised we haven’t seen him on this show as prominently as the other defectors. The Scientology Reformation By Mark Rathbun. Marty was one of the few "surviving" GO members after the fallout from Operation Snow White. “I first met with my eldest brother Scott in his one-bedroom apartment, in an old tenement building by the railroad yard. Well, Mr. Rathbun absolutely falls under the ' family members ' category, so that's easy-peasy: He is covered under the TRO. Basically, OP, there are not two sides. Because the tiny tyrant was right this once, Marty couldn't make it in the outside world. You’re using the same critical statements as others for decades with a clear bias. If you read his own writings he was, essentially, trying to start his own movement, and then started adding in Eastern influences and a lot of other stuff. He appears to have become disillusioned with what he calls the "Anti-Scientology Cult". He pretends to hate them but really he just wants to start a spin off. So saying he knew what Mathewson was saying is just false. (Photo by MGM. Watch videos about the JACKIE cult. That makes much more sense to me than the other way around. He's back defending Scientology. In a PM, Mr. Time After Time informed me that these are sometimes called "Band-Aid Bushings". Who knows? These things were … Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. David Misacavige's and Leah Remini's. Introduction and Groundbased Data [2] Loki Patera is a 200 km diameter horseshoe‐shaped low albedo feature on Io, located at approximately 10 N 310 W. Galileo measurements confirm that the hottest portions are equivalent to the low albedo regions and recent Galileo Photopolarimeter‐Radiometer (PPR) estimates indicate that when active, Loki accounts for roughly … I read a comment on YouTube discussing this that really struck me, especially because of Marty’s history while in the church. We see it everyday. MARTY RATHBUN: A former external affairs officer, removed from authority within the Church eight years ago for gross malfeasance which included suborning perjury and obstruction of justice. He escaped as soon as he was taken to the hole, even though he sent so many people there; He couldn't handle not being Davey's big bad enforcer. Wrote Marty: "Ron educated his followers on the mechanics used to control and damage the mind, and simultaneously employed those by him to do precisely that to his followers, having been educated by Ron on the techniques would never guess they would be used on [them] his followers.". Marty Rathbun said on May 10th, 2013:. … I recalled my mother being taken off to a private psychiatric facility while I resided in her womb. Find out about Marty Rathbun. Also he believes in the tech and continues to practice. At one point, Miscavige, Aznaran, and Prince (the bosses of RTC at the time) arranged to have a freezoner murdered by planting drugs on him in Taiwan. It makes a lot of sense, his vibe has always been off and his behavior in the My Scientology Movie speaks volumes. Brainwashing is crazy powerful. Well, I think that I am more towards Rinder and Remini, but that does not mean that Rathburn does not have some points. Imo, yep. It answers the most frequently asked questions about Scientology today, including: What is behind the madness and violence widely reported on Scientology Inc. supreme leader David Miscavige? Tony Ortega - Scientology Secrets + Tactics, David Miscavige, Tom Cruise - Jim Norton & Sam Roberts - Duration: 42:24. October 10, 2012 By Mike Rinder Leave a Comment. The absurdity of this is that to be a Scientologist is to be independent so it does not require an adjective. Or perhaps that's a part of his private settlement, if there is one. I think, if anything, it’s the reverse of what you’re saying. The tragedy of Marty Rathbun is that just before he caved to $cientology, he recognized one of Hubbard main M.O.s (Mode of Operating), first spotted by Volney Mathison in 1954. He never gave up scientology, he's still trapped in his belief. However, when you mix that with some of Marty's weaknesses (like being quite... self-important and self-centred, denial and pushing away of his role for Miscavige) then he expresses some interesting views. It's similar to being mormon, but not a member of the LDS. Thumbnail: WB/Everett Collection.) His blog makes it clear he's not a Scientologist in any form. He seemed like a highly paranoid anxious angry person so I'm not surprised that he would go back. I think it's a buy off. Scientology is the road to total… The theory is that Marty defected solely to infiltrate the defector community to essentially gather information against high ranking S.P’s. Scientology lawyers claim she's a straw figure. I feel like he thought he could start his own thing, and when it didn't take off, he was more vulnerable to the bribes that come after the attacks. So, at least IMO, it's part the Church offered him a truce, and part he's not entirely comfortable with the "it's all bullshit" tone many of the exposes take with it. Scott Rathbun to his brother Marty Rathbun. I’m guessing it’s part of the settlement. Insanity runs deep in my family. He still practises Scientology, from what I understand, as an independent and he still audits people. It is full of conjectures or speculations. Abstract Two experiments tested the hypothesis that framing biases in decision making would affect more strongly individuals with relatively low levels of need for cognition (NC). This blog, "The Gad About Town," is about many topics, from social habits to baseball to art and movies. Even choreographing them? Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. What do you guys think? 1. He believes that Rinder and Remini distort what they are saying for their own personal gain and that he is calling that out. It’s curiously fascinating yet disgusting to watch him defect and “see the light” to a degree only to later bash defectors publicly. I agree that it seems likely that he cut a deal with Scientology, or with a third party acting on behalf of Scientology. Patently false. He does not want to destroy the organisation entirely... he wants Miscavige to go. Press J to jump to the feed. It makes a lot of sense the more I think about it due to how deeply Rathburn believes in the “tech.” All the harassment stuff was completely staged. I am a gad about town. But I can’t escape that feeling that it just doesn’t seem like Rathbun. If you look at Marty's writing just prior to his caving and taking the money from Miscavige and agreeing to make a series of videos attacking critics of Miscavige, his understanding of Scientology - the subject - had evolved. Posts about education written by Mark C. Rathbun. After all, is not the enemy of my enemy my friend? Rathbun calls them "First Aid Clock Bushings". Is he that tone deaf that he does not realize this, or is he just doing exactly what the church wants him to either through an agreement or their coercion? There are people who have left and are very anti-Scientology as a whole... there are people who have left Scientology but because they have a problem with the way things have gone, but they still believe in Scientology. I know Rathbun played around with indie Scientology for awhile, then tried tinkering with Hubbard’s ideas to see if he could make some variations on them work for awhile, but didn’t he ultimately conclude that it simply was not true and could not be fixed? I can understand how it gets confusing…that’s if I’m understanding your post correctly. He wrote some good books about Scientology plus a decent fiction book. Marty ended up squirreling the tech himself with his public. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the scientology community. Once he and Monique had their child, I believe he cut a deal with Davey so his family wouldn't be harassed. My name is Mark Aldrich. It was Rathbun whose wife Monique fired her lawyers. Because they both dislike the church but for conflicting reasons. That logic is lost on me. My understanding is that he is still a scientologist, but not a member of CoS. I just see his blog posts about how Leah Remini and Mike Rinder are full of shit, even after he went on their show, so I just don’t know where things stand today. There are people who are "IN" Scientology. I think he effectively Dead Agent'ed himself. Why haven’t we seen Marty Rathbun on Leah Remini’s show? The whole long drawn out fiasco is laid out on a combination of this blog, Tony Ortega’s blog and Rathbun’s blog. I think your getting Marc Headley confused with Mark “Marty” Rathbun. Contacting or harassing Mrs. Rathbun's employer, her co-workers, her family members, or her friends." Who did what to whom? IIRC in the book, Marty, aka "Special Project L", was heading the operation. Same with Aznaran. The timing of dropping the suit, and the justification, were beyond suspicious. There's probably some boring legal reason. There was a pretty telling scene in My Scientology Movie that shows his commitment to the tech at least that’s what I perceive it portrays: https://youtu.be/oKt7jFz-g74. Debbie Cook was gagged with IAS donations and dropped her lawsuit. Marty is envious of the church. He saw it as interwoven with negatives put there by Hubbard. Vicky wrote up an affidavit twisting the truth and confusing readers, recanting her story. Also why is this man not in jail, if not only from admitting to destroying information related to their handling of Lisa McPherson? Rathbun was basically the Gestapo of the CoS. Why Scientology must be reformed. Monique Rathbun vs David Miscavige and Scientology In Activism, Human Rights, No Time For Slaves, Religion, Politics and War, Scientology on September 17, 2013 at 9:03 pm Marty does not believe "Scientology works.". The man being berated is Mark "Marty" Rathbun, who spent two and a half decades in the church, rising to become a top official there before breaking away in 2004. They either paid him off enough or blackmailed him to recant his criticisms. I … How much did your soul cost? Mark Wayne Rathbun, 37, was convicted of assaulting 14 California women between January 1997 and November 2002 – most of them in and around the city’s Belmont Shore neighborhood. He was writing to get a settlement and nothing more. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. 2. The plaintiff, Monique Rathbun, a non-Scientologist, is married to Mark Rathbun, a prominent dissident who once was Miscavige's second-in-command. The Church of Scientology has hit back at filmmaker Alex Gibney’s exposé “Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief,” which aired Sunday night on HBO. A sub for the discussion of all things Scientology related. A mistrial has been declared in the case of a Massachusetts man indicted on federal charges of attempted arson at a Jewish-sponsored assisted living community.. People who alter Scientology are referred to as squirrels. Lame... Reading the comments in this thread makes me realize how the quality in this sub has gone downhill. (the scene in one of the movies where he gets pissed when they are fooling around with some of the training techniques in particular). A sub for the discussion of all things Scientology related. Why would he appear in such a film and corroborate experiences of people in “The Hole” then? (Figuratively, not literally, honest.). Anyone know why? Not Only is he not attacking Scientology he's producing Golden Era Studios quality videos denouncing critics of Scientology. I’m sure I recall a sort of “I give up on this” post by him around 2013 or 2014. This is when he starts selling out his friends and defending Davey again. All Rathbun had to do was spin spin spin tall tales and lie about critics - all designed to confuse active Scientologists in doubt.Miscavige did it to Debbie Cook and Vicky Aznaran - both high ranking apostates. 100 Best Movies on HBO Max (January 2021) HBO comes out swinging in the increasingly crowded streaming arena, with HBO Max offering the masses arguably the deepest, most far-reaching library of titles among platform competitors. “It should be considered that the role of man is to do more than survive, he should also encourage and help others” link. My mother received multiple electro-convulsive shock therapy treatments while pregnant with me. 1. Jim and Sam Show 501,586 views Dealing with threats from DM or others might make someone crazy. He finally settled outside of the public eye and now keeps quiet. They had just had a major win and suddenly they drop the suit and blame their attorneys. The video of Church of Scientology executives harassing former Church official Marty “Mark” Rathbun went viral: It was completely reprehensible, outrageous, and irresponsible for the three Scientology officials to have entered a US airport for the purposes of harassing one individual. So Jesse Prince's book Expert Witness gives a very honest take on Mike Rinder (who generally doesn't get too much flak) and Marty (who gets a ton). This doesn't really tell us he's 100% back into the church, but it's interesting that hes got so much stress about it all. I had to clean some of them up and saw it first hand as one of his public. He was an opportunist and a thug through and through, using PIs and ex-police connections to blackmail and track enemies of the Church. The reenactment scenes he did with Louie were insane. Marty Rathbun has hitched his already questionable wagon of misinformation to a group of Scientology Fair Game supporters in order to further his and OSA's mission. Posted on October 16, 2020 by Mark C. Rathbun | Comments Off on Monique Rathbun vs. Church of Scientology II Recently Tony Backpage Ortega, Leah Remini, Mike Rinder, Ray Jeffrey, and Paul Haggis conducted a coordinated pile on effort to shut me up. First Aid, Band-Aid, whatever, points to an obvious conclusion. I can understand that he probably reached a settlement with the church, but to put out countless videos bashing vocal defectors is just embarrassing. You need to remember that Scientology harassed him for years and repeatedly took him to court. He's a "private" scientologist. She brings logic and planning to her writing from a background as an IT project manager, and attention to characters and dialog from her second career as a Congregationalist minister. I suspect he'll be writing more books. I call BS on your statement. The "anti scientology cult" ... LOL what a joke. In his current blog, attacking Leah Remini, we find the usual inability to provide either facts or honesty.… Wow! ... Cal head coach Mark Fox has had to get creative with his rotations. He fancies himself the Martin Luther of Scientology. This led me to do some re-thinking about the matter. For when he starts off the rails, jump to "February 2016-January 2017: Ruing the day". On his blog, Rathbun … Great, extensive history (high five if you're a bunkerite!) Hardcore believers would totally act on this type of behavior in my opinion. Facebook Twitter Email LinkedIn Reddit Pinterest. He didn’t have a clue as an auditor.